Come Watch Ken Ham Debate Bill Nye

Live Stream Event!

The debate will be held in Kentucky at Answers in Genesis’ Creation Museum, but we will be streaming it live here at the Creation & Earth History Museum in Santee, CA and showing it free in our auditorium. Seating is limited, so come in early to save you a spot.

You can see more about this exciting debate or sign up to stream it yourself here:

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Answers Debate Info

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Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham

Live Streaming FREE on Feb. 4 at 7 PM ET

Is creation a viable model of origins in today’s modern, scientific era? Leading creation apologist and bestselling Christian author Ken Ham is joined at the Creation Museum by popular TV personality and evolution apologist Bill Nye.

Ham, a former science instructor who emigrated to the USA from Australia over 25 years ago, is joined by the popular children’s program personality Bill Nye “the Science Guy” for this first and only scheduled debate. Each man delivers what he believes is the best information currently available for his case. Each then has an opportunity for rebuttal and afterward answers questions submitted by the audience.

The upcoming February 4 debate has already generated significant attention from national media, and tickets to attend live were completely sold out within two minutes of release.

Don’t miss this “debate of the decade”! Watch at home, or organize to show the live stream to your small group, your youth group, or even your entire church. This event may be freely rebroadcast to groups so long as no admission or other fees are charged to any participants or attendees.

The debate is to be held in the 900-seat Legacy Hall lecture arena at the Creation Museum (sponsored by Answers in Genesis).

For more events at the Creation & Earth History Museum in Santee, CA click here:

Creation & Earth History Museum Events

Creation Field Tours

Did you know that the Creation & Earth History Museum offers biblically-based field tours every year? These adventurous and exploratory outings feature some pretty spectacular locations right here in the U.S.

Travel with us through the wonders and splendor of God’s Creation so that we may marvel in the glory of the Creator.

Grand Canyon

You can book tours and find additional information here:

This year we have three exciting adventures that you can join:

Creation Field Tour – 1

Grand Canyon Raft Trip – August 23-26, 2014 (4 Day 3 Night)

Guides: Russ Miller of CESM

& Jon Albert of Canyon Ministries

$1390 per person

$400 deposit, with the balance due 6/30/14

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Trip includes travel from Las Vegas, NV, 3 meals per day, teaching on geological evidence for Noah’s Flood, teaching on the creationist model of life’s origins, entertainment, hiking, horseback riding, skeet shooting, a thrilling helicopter ride, 3 days of rafting in the Grand Canyon, a jet boat ride, camping accommodations and travel back to Las Vegas. Once you’ve been on this trip, you will realize it is an amazing bargain.





Creation Field Tour – 2

Anza Borrego Desert  – April 5-6, 2014 (2 Day 1 Night)

Guide: Dr. Steve Austin of Logos Research Associates!steve-austin/c1wdx

$229 per person

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The Anza Borrego State Park has something for everyone to enjoy from hiking, to wildlife observation
and incredible views of sweeping landscapes and surprisingly beautiful desert vegetation. In the spring the desert blossoms with all sorts of desert flowers and is home to an array of wildlife including bighorn sheep, rattlesnakes, banded geckos, horned lizards, hummingbirds, coyotes and jack rabbits. You will experience God’s amazing design while traveling through the desert in a 10-wheel ATV. The main focus of this tour is Flood geology as top creation geologist, Dr. Steve Austin guides you along in this fun and informative outdoor adventure. Hotel accommodations and meal included.


Creation Field Tour – 3

Grand Canyon-Grand Staircase Adventure – June 5-11, 2014 (7 Days & 6 Nights)

Guides: Russ Miller of CESM

& Wayne Barber of Purpose Driven Tours

$1199 per Adult, $799 for Children Ages 7-16

$300 deposit, balance due 4-1-14

*Prices based on double occupancy

Includes; visiting the Grand Canyon – North and South Rim, Zion Canyon, Bryce Canyon, ½ Day Raft trip of Colorado River in Glen Canyon, hiking, round trip bus transportation from San Diego, quality hotel accommodations,  3 great meals per day, admission fees, and teaching on geological evidence for Noah’s Flood and the creationist model of life’s origins.


The Obviousness of Design

Have you been involved in discussions with people who appear unable to see design in God’s Creation or perhaps refuse to? This oxymoronic “blind viewpoint”  seems rampant, especially on the internet, as humanism and atheism infect the World Wide Web. To those that know the Lord, the splendor of His designs shines radiantly nearly every where we look.

Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.  ~Josh 1:9

Don’t let the opinions and actions of the spiritually blind hinder you in spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ. The obviousness of design is often a nice point of discussion for those that have ears to listen.

On that note, here is a an article by one of our favorite authors, Dr. Jonathan Sarfati

Design in living organisms (motors: ATP synthase)

Bacterial flagellum with rotary motor

In our everyday experience, we can usually tell whether something has been designed. The main evidence is high information content. The information content of any arrangement is the size, in bits, of the shortest algorithm required to generate that arrangement. This means that repetitive structures, like crystals, have a low information content, because all that is needed is to specify a few positions, then the instructions ‘more of the same’. The difference between a crystal and an enzyme or DNA is like the difference between a book containing nothing but ABCD repeated and a book of Shakespeare.

On a practical level, the information specifies the many parts needed to make machines work. Often, the removal of one part can disrupt the whole machine. Biochemist Michael Behe, in his book Darwin’s Black Box(right), calls this irreducible complexity.1 He gives the example of a very simple machine: a mousetrap. This would not work without a platform, holding bar, spring, hammer and catch, all in the right place. The thrust of Behe’s book is that many structures in living organisms show irreducible complexity, far in excess of a mousetrap or indeed any man-made machine.

Motors: a case study

Motors are irreducibly complex, because they need many parts working together to function. For example, an electric motor needs a power source, fixed stator, movable rotor, and a commutator or slip rings.


ATP synthase motorATP synthase motor, afterRef. 4. (from ATP Mechanisms Revealed, <

The more parts needed for a machine, the harder it is to make it smaller. Miniaturisation is such a vital part of the computer industry, and the best human minds are constantly working at it. And though miniaturised motors would be very useful, e.g. for unblocking clogged arteries and blood cleaning, the number of parts makes it difficult to make them below a certain size. But ingenious scientists are making them smaller all the time.2

However the design in living organisms has far exceeded our most painstaking efforts. Bacteria propel themselves using flagella (singular flagellum, from the Latin for whip), filaments propelled by a true rotary motor. This motor is only the size of a virus, thus far smaller than anything man-made. Yet it can rotate at over 1000 times per second.3

But even this impressively tiny motor is not the tiniest in God’s creation. In a paper published in March 1997, Hiroyuki Noji et al. directly observed the rotation of the enzymeF1-ATPase, a subunit of a larger enzyme, ATP synthase.4,5 This had been suggested as the mechanism for the enzyme’s operation by Paul Boyer.6 Structural determination by X-ray diffraction by a team led by John Walker had supported this theory.7 A few months after Noji et al published their work, it was announced that Boyer and Walker had won a half share of the 1997 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for their discovery.8

The F1-ATPase motor has nine components—five different proteins with the stoichiometry of 3a:3b:1g:1d:1e. In bovine mitochondria, they contain 510, 482, 272, 146 and 50 amino acids respectively, so Mr = 371,000. F1-ATPase is a flattened sphere about 10 nm across by 8 nm high—so tiny that 1017 would fill the volume of a pinhead. This has been shown to spin ‘like a motor’ to produce ATP, a chemical which is the ‘energy currency’ of life.9 This motor produces an immense torque (turning force) for its size—in the experiment, it rotated a strand of another protein,actin, 100 times its own length. Also, when driving a heavy load, it probably changes to a lower gear, as any well-designed motor should.

ATP synthase also contains the membrane-embedded FO subunit functioning as a proton (hydrogen ion) channel. Protons flowing through FOprovide the driving force of the F1-ATPase motor. They turn a wheel-like structure as water turns a water wheel, but researchers are still trying to determine precisely how. This rotation changes the conformation of the three active sites on the enzyme. Then each in turn can attach ADP and inorganic phosphate to form ATP. Unlike most enzymes, where energy is needed to link the building blocks, ATP synthase uses energy to link them to the enzyme, and throw off the newly formed ATP molecules. Separating the ATP from the enzyme needs much energy.

Note: the names of the two components are historical. The F1 unit comes from the term ‘Fraction 1’. The name FO (written as a subscript capital O, not zero) is due to its being the oligomycin-binding fraction. Oligomycin is an antibiotic that kills bacteria by blocking the proton channel of the FO subunit.

ATP synthase is the central enzyme in energy conversion in mitochondria (where they are embedded into the cristae, folds in the mitochondrion’s inner membrane), chloroplasts and bacteria. This probably makes ATP synthase the most ubiquitous protein on Earth. Since energy is required for life, and all life uses ATP as its energy currency (each of us synthesizes and consumes half our bodyweight of ATP per day!), life could not have evolved before this motor was fully functional. Natural selection by definition is differential reproduction, so requires self-reproducing entities to start with. So even if a series of gradual steps could be imagined up this peak of ‘Mount Improbable’, there would be no natural selection to enable that climb.

One of the Nature articles was appropriately entitled ‘Real Engines of Creation’. Unfortunately, despite the evidence for exquisite design, many scientists (including the editor of Nature) still have a blind faith that mutations and natural selection could build such machines.

Animation of ATP synthase.

Would any evidence convince evolutionists?

The famous British evolutionist (and communist) J.B.S. Haldane claimed in 1949 that evolution could never produce ‘various mechanisms, such as the wheel and magnet, which would be useless till fairly perfect.’10 Therefore such machines in organisms would, in his opinion, prove evolution false. These molecular motors have indeed fulfilled one of Haldane’s criteria. Also, turtles11 and monarch butterflies12 which use magnetic sensors for navigation fulfil Haldane’s other criterion. I wonder whether Haldane would have had a change of heart if he had been alive to see these discoveries. Many evolutionists rule out intelligent design a priori, so the evidence, overwhelming as it is, would probably have no effect.


  1. Behe, M.J., 1996. Darwin’s Black Box: The Biochemical Challenge to Evolution, The Free Press, New York. Reviewed by Ury, T.H., 1997. Journal of Creation11(3):283–291. Return to text
  2. Hogan, H., 1996. Invasion of the micromachines. New Scientist 150(2036):28–33. Return to text
  3. For a good description, see Behe, Ref. 1. Return to text
  4. Hiroyuki Noji et al., 1997. Direct observation of the rotation of F1-ATPase. Nature 386(6622):299–302. Comment by Block, S. Real engines of creation. Same issue, pp. 217–219. Return to text
  5. Wu, C., 1997. Molecular motor spins out energy for cells. Science News 151(12):173. Return to text
  6. Boyer, P., 1993. Biochim. Biophys. Acta 1140:215–250. Return to text
  7. Abrahams, J.P. et al., 1994. Structure at 2.8 Å resolution of F1-ATPase from bovine heart mitochondria. Nature 370(6491):621–628. Comment by Cross, R.L. Our primary source of ATP. Same issue, pp. 594–595. Return to text
  8. Service, R.F., 1997. Awards for High-Energy Molecules and Cool Atoms. Science 278(5338):578–579. The third winner is Jens Skou of the University of Aarhus in Denmark. Forty years ago, he was the first to identify an enzyme that moves substances through cell membranes (in this case, sodium and potassium ions). This is a key function of all cells. Return to text
  9. ATP stands for adenosine triphosphate. It is a high energy compound, and releases this energy by losing a phosphate group to give ADP, adenosinediphosphate. Return to text
  10. Dewar, D., Davies, L.M. and Haldane, J.B.S., 1949. Is Evolution a Myth? A Debate between D. Dewar and L.M. Davies vs. J.B.S. Haldane, Watts & Co. Ltd / Paternoster Press, London, p. 90. Return to text
  11. Sarfati, J.D., 1997. Turtles can read magnetic mapsReturn to text
  12. Poirier, J.H., 1997. The Magnificent Migrating MonarchCreation 20(1):28–31. But monarchs only use the earth’s magnetic field to give them the general direction, while they rely on the sun’s position for most of their navigation.